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"Public Speaking Myths: Joining Toastmasters will Make You a Better Speaker" was posted by James and received 16 users commented
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Simon - presentation skills trainer said,         
January 8 2009

I originally started to read your article because of the title and found myself agreeing with it… but I’ve been banging on for years in various blogs about the risks of Toastmasters too.

The strength of such places (that you get peer reviewed etc.) is also the weakness sometimes (you get PEER reviewed): most Toastmasters are good places but sometimes this can lead to a degree of mediocrity because no one knows what GREAT public speaking looks like.

And on one one or two horrible occations I’ve both seen and heard of positivily dangerous advice being given!

But like I say, generally a great place!

Simon

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James said,         
January 8 2009

Simon,

You’re absolutely right. I always give my students that caveat when it comes to Toastmasters. The feedback is only as good as the person giving it.

Thanks for commenting.

James

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Jeff said,         
January 11 2009

I would add an item to the “Some of the things to look for when choosing a club” section of your post.

Make certain that the club includes at least a few people who speak very well. It makes all the difference in the world.

One thing that you learn from any evaluation is to sit there and take criticism. It is a skill that we all need to develop.

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How to Succeed in Toastmasters « Gilbert Toastmasters said,         
January 11 2009

[...] leave a comment » via The Overnight Sensation blog: [...]

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Five frogs sitting on a log | World Champion Evaluator said,         
January 12 2009

[...] Toastmasters make you a better speaker?  The answer is no.  See here.  There’s only one person that can make you a better speaker… [...]

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Public Speaking Myths: Public Speaking is Like Riding a Bike. | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
January 14 2009

[...] “public speaking is like riding a bike.” Both statements are true to some extent, but just like the myth about Toastmasters will make you a better speaker, it depends on a lot of other factors. Some of the things to consider [...]

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Best Public Speaking Articles [2009-01-17] said,         
January 19 2009

[...] Feudo reveals a myth – that simply joining Toastmasters will make you a better speaker. In order for you to succeed in [...]

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TM Mike said,         
January 26 2009

I saw your headline and was all up and arms as Toastmasters is the best thing to happen to me. Then I read it and said gee you got a point. I emailed the link to my other club officers. Very good points. Thanks for posting. Bye, Mike.

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Public Speaking Success: Why You Shouldn’t Practice Your Speech in Front of a Mirror | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
March 25 2009

[...] it’s important to understand why a mirror doesn’t help you – there’s a lot of bad speaking advice out there making the rounds, so it’s important for you to learn to distinguish good advice [...]

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Toastmasters Success – Taking Your Speaking to the Next Level | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
April 2 2009

[...] This Post Toastmasters is a great way to become a better speaker (provided you choose the right club). But the vast majority of the people who join Toastmasters only speak at their own club. Yes, you [...]

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Five Signs That You May Have Outgrown Toastmasters | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
May 28 2009

[...] get a great evaluation, then you’ve at the very least outgrown your club. You might want to try a different club (preferably with a larger membership) or an advanced club if you qualify to change things up. [...]

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What I Hate About Toastmasters | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
September 26 2010

[...] more than a few weeks, then you probably know my position on Toastmasters: I recommend it, but only if you choose the right club. Through the years I’ve come into contact with thousands of people who have been involved [...]

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Kevin Kane said,         
December 31 2010

James, good point not to remain insulated inside of Toastmasters.

We’ll learn a lot more — and more quickly — by speaking outside of Toastmasters.

Wasn’t that the reason we joined Toastmasters to begin with? To be a better speaker in the real world?

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How To Be a Better Public Speaker – Ranking the Methods | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
January 3 2012

[...] On the flip side, Toastmasters is self-paced and there’s no instructor, so your progress depends on your own motivation and the strength and leadership of your club. I was lucky enough to be part of an amazing club with good speakers. But not every club is like that. So visit a few clubs first before settling on one and read my Toastmasters Primer and article on how to find a good club. [...]

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The Real Reason People Hate Public Speaking | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
January 10 2012

[...] 1: Joining Toastmasters will make you a better speaker. I credit a lot of my success to Toastmasters and have seen a lot of folks overcome their fears and become great speakers through the Toastmasters. But I’ve also seen almost the equivalent number of people join and only be seen a handful of times before their semi-annual dues expire. [...]

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Can a Book or Audio Program Make You a Better Speaker? | Overnight Sensation - Public Speaking, Communication and Personal Development said,         
January 24 2012

[...] from Toastmasters to Dale Carnegie to dozens of so called “presentation experts.” The latter group by far produced some of the worst advice I’ve ever seen – some was so bad, I actually [...]

 

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